Peter is currently involved in developing the Global Transition Initiative with the State of the World Forum team. As part of the development, he is interviewing some people to ask them the question : “what would you do to facilitate global transition?”. John Petersen is the first person he asked, being one of the world’s foremost futurists (President of the Arlington Institute), with a deep understanding of the processes of non-linear change and epochal emergence. In this interview, John shares an understanding which is hard to deny and yet very challenging to accept. Peter is committed to contributing to the strategy that John describes. (When this was recorded, the system failed to pick up Peter’s questions and comments, which is why the sequence might sound a bit strange sometimes – with some non-linear leaps!).